Fishing Safety - Page 5

RobS · #61 03-10-2010, 04:06 PM

I do remember a fellow getting washed off the IBSP south jetty (if I recall correctly) having to be rescued by boat.

Montauk Surf · #62 03-10-2010, 04:35 PM

A surfcaster off the north shore of Long Island drowned last year or before.

akoller · #63 03-10-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk Surf

A surfcaster off the north shore of Long Island drowned last year or before.

Was it at Orient Point? That place looks like it could kill a few per year.

Merlin · #64 03-10-2010, 06:19 PM

NO but if you really concerned about wading in waders way out there beyond, you might think about a drill in the neighbors lake or swimming pool. Have a buddy tie a rope around your waist and you could learn your capabilities in swimming with waders and all your stuff, on holding your pole. Worst case your buddy can haul you in like a dead stump.

That is my plan with a friend who has taken up kayak fishing. Of course I am the friend on the shore end of the rope.

PlugDog · #65 03-10-2010, 08:50 PM

An experienced surfcaster was swept off the rocks and drowned just north of Boston last fall. I think it was Nahant or Swamscott after one of the storms that pushed in some big rolling waves from quite a distance offshore.

JoeLyons · #66 03-11-2010, 05:46 AM

What PlugDog writes of happens quite a bit. We get tropically influenced systems that pass to our south and east that produce high seas under otherwise favorable conditions. Fair weather easterlies are deceiving and dangerous because while the surf is high, it's not raining and windy. Rain and wind usually keep fishermen at home, but while it could appear to be a bluebird day when you leave your house, you are met with 8-10ft rollers when you get to the shore.

It's possible to construct a couple of profiles of when, where, who and how, people will get into trouble, and have it be fairly accurate for most surf accidents.

ragman · #67 03-11-2010, 08:39 AM

Pay attention to rip current warnings to put out for swimmers during the summer. As Joe mentioned, could be a nice looking day, wade out too far and get caught in a rip current, it could make your visit unpleasant...

JoeLyons · #68 03-11-2010, 08:52 AM

Experience is a relative thing. You might have ten years experience, but you've never been caught in a rip current, or you have only fished the high surf a handful of times. Often times, a person's recognition of where they are fishing and what typifies normal at a given spot could be off. Ask people how would they characterize fishing Beavertail Light and you'll find very few people reply, "cliff fishing." But it is cliff fishing, and it requires its own skill set.

Frank Daignault · #69 03-11-2010, 11:44 AM

I'm convinced that people are drowning from the panic because thay have been trained to believe that full waders will sink them. When I did that insurance job we could not sink me and the trapped air in my waders did more to help me than the water hindered me. Still, I think something happens that remains unknown, some circumstance beyond my tests, panic fears of drowning, weights that take a surfcster down. It happens too often to be as simple as I make it sound.

Montauk Surf · #70 03-11-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by akoller

Was it at Orient Point? That place looks like it could kill a few per year.

No, it was the center of the island. Orient Pt. Does have very dangerous waters. Very deep water close to shore in many spots also.

ragman · #71 03-12-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Daignault

I'm convinced that people are drowning from the panic because thay have been trained to believe that full waders will sink them. When I did that insurance job we could not sink me and the trapped air in my waders did more to help me than the water hindered me. Still, I think something happens that remains unknown, some circumstance beyond my tests, panic fears of drowning, weights that take a surfcster down. It happens too often to be as simple as I make it sound.

I think you are right here. Panic, and not thinking about options. Off topic, but saw a video of a guy who was driving a Toyota down an Interstate in CA, gas pedal stuck, and he was doing 90 mph. Standing on the brakes, and couldn't stop. Called 911, and a CHP officer pulled in front of him and slowed him down. How about throwing the trans into neutral? Might blow the engine with a runaway gas pedal, but at least you got control of the situation.

Back on topic, someone gets washed off a jetty, sucked out in a rip current, I think they dont take a few seconds to look at the options, and instead panic.Easy for all of us to second guess, but I have been in situations that were less than ideal, and just a little thought got me out of them. I also learned from the incidents, and that goes a long way when something happens in the future.

Merlin · #72 03-12-2010, 07:37 AM

Ragman said: "I think you are right here. Panic, and not thinking about options. Off topic, but saw a video of a guy who was driving a Toyota down an Interstate in CA, gas pedal stuck, and he was doing 90 mph. Standing on the brakes, and couldn't stop. Called 911, and a CHP officer pulled in front of him and slowed him down. How about throwing the trans into neutral? Might blow the engine with a runaway gas pedal, but at least you got control of the situation."

Or just reach for the key and shut engine off, stay in gear to slow down and steer with the strength of ten.

VA Gentleman · #73 03-12-2010, 11:34 AM

A couple days ago, the local news in Richmond did a report on the incident Rags described. During the report, they interviewed a mechanic, and he agreed with what Rags suggested (shift the transmission into neutral). As stated, it might blow the engine, but eventually it will stop. The mechanic stated not to turn the key off, as you would lose control of the steering.

Frank Daignault · #74 03-12-2010, 02:10 PM

I have a bad feeling about all the horror stories coming out about recall issues. Sure, there are valid safety issues but in the midst of all the consumers trying for the big score in every other fasset of our lives, my BS Meter is flashing like a buggah. The 90 mph story falls into that catagory. Lets all hold hands and dance on Toyota's grave.

Merlin · #75 03-12-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Daignault

I have a bad feeling about all the horror stories coming out about recall issues. Sure, there are valid safety issues but in the midst of all the consumers trying for the big score in every other fasset of our lives, my BS Meter is flashing like a buggah. The 90 mph story falls into that catagory. Lets all hold hands and dance on Toyota's grave.

Or go to a Toyota dealership with a cloth and wipe the cobwebs off the salesman's head and face and low ball him on a pick up. He of course will say that the pickups are not effected and you can look out and see where they are not selling like hot cakes and then hold your ground on the price you offered or walk away.